Okay, well I'm not complaining about no one else having alchemy! You can share with π€βοΈ and I'll share with βοΈ, and we're not including π± in this because he can't even make a candlelight. βπ―οΈ I'm going to be the one making faces at him, just wait. πΏ
What do you mean "invent the death magic"? How do you just invent death magic? That implies no one had death magic before???
βοΈ likes my faces, he wouldn't see it as a threat! Except if I use the π₯Ί face... I think he finds that one upsetting. Actually, on second though, don't show him that face! Just work on the π¦ and keep the faces to yourself. π€«
I'm including π± because it makes my argument stronger and also to be nice. I feel like someone has to! Especially if you're going to make faces at him and scold him for not studying. Like another π€βοΈ. π€π. π€£π»π€£π»π€£π»
Does it? Well someone probably did. Just not believable otherwise.
So bossy! Too bossy to be π₯Ί which is definitely a threat even if βοΈ doesn't realize it. π€«π» π¦π¦π¦ π«π₯Ί
If π± makes your argument stronger, it must be a pretty weak argument... π€
Which one is a scarier face? Be honest! I can't ask π± or we won't hear from him for two hours.
You can't say that you invented π»β¨ and then say someone else probably had it! I just can't imagine π»β¨ not existing already. People discover new spells all the time, but whole disciplines of magic? Not usually!
What if I think they are equally scary but for different reasons? Is that allowed?
Well, exactly! Did you invent something if it already existed but wasn't in use? How can you know no one else ever knew about it? Surely they did. Anyway I didn't say that.
π€π€π€π€π€π€π€π€π€π€ββββββ You said a few! Not ten! I never knew ducks would be so popular. Are you adding more every time I talk back? π€«π»β
It's allowed, but only if you tell me the reasons~
It's really not fair for π» and βοΈ to not have eyebrows. Maybe you can draw those on, too~
I *guess* that makes more sense! That the magic existed but you just figured it out. That's sort of how I learned magic, too. It already existed; I just had to tinker with it.
Was it really ten π€? My finger must have slipped! π I *should* add more every time you talk back, though. That's a good idea. More π€! How many π€ can π¦ have?
The reasons are that for πΏ to be making that face something must surely be causing it, because it's out of the ordinary. For βοΈ it's more ordinary, but also, π‘οΈ. If we're talking for π± it's still a tie but once again for different reasons.
I think it would always have to have already existed, how would you just make it? It would be like waking up and just deciding to make a sixth element.
I don't know how many, ask π±! Ask a π¦! Ten is the limit if you ask me and I would definitely have to add a second duck then. From now on I'm only drawing things like plants and mountains which I will contemplate in silence.
Hmmm... That sounds right so far. What are the π± reasons??
Agreed! The magic is always there, even if you don't know how to use it. No one "invents" magic, they just discover a new way to use it.
I don't think you can contemplate anything in silence. π€ I bet you're not even being silent right now! Imagine, you wouldn't have had to draw any ducks if you hadn't appealed to βοΈ to support your shoddy π¦ opinions~
Your disapproval is very fresh and new for π±, and who knows what the consequences could be? He certainly doesn't. He doesn't even know you could make him see ants in his food, I bet. βοΈ would never do that, but his disapproval isn't new at all, just unavoidable. The newness will wear off quickly though and then βοΈ will be the scariest, unless you take steps to avoid it.
Exactly! Someone just has to have the idea.
This is so outrageous, all I did was show him the picture! And support his π¦ opinions which aren't shoddy. So mean, so much slander. If I weren't π€«π» I'd have to report this too.
Maybe I will encourage his fear of my disapproval so that I can be the scariest. I can be more powerful than βοΈ... πππ Besides, if you've decided to be nice to him, then that means that I don't have to~
It's not his fault for not realizing it's not a duck. The hat and arms were left off, and I'm sure that's where the whole thing went awry. You don't have an excuse, I told you what it was from the beginning! π€«π» ππ¨π¦
It really doesn't mean that at all, but I do understand the appeal of a chance to be scarier than Hanguang-jun. But what if you were nicer to him than βοΈ? Wouldn't that also be more powerful? It certainly might be more attainable. Imagine being a good example for βοΈ. Do you think that's ever happened before?
Do you want a picture of ducks or a picture of a picture of ducks? I have to show you fast before anyone else tries to increase the amount of ducks.
And! Consider! I wouldn't even know what to say. I don't have a good reason to be nice. My only reason would be because you're doing it, and at that point you might as well be the one lecturing.
Who else is trying to increase the amount of π¦ besides me??? I want the picture! I asked for it first, didn't I? I'll hang it up next to the π¦΄π» so they can be friends~
I don't see where it would be necessary to lecture βοΈ, that's not what an example is for, an example is π€«. Though you're right that it is very funny to think about. But where did I say anything about lecturing? I would never.π«π«π« If I were going to lecture I'd say you don't need a good reason to be nice, but I'm not so I won't.
Calm down, you can have the picture no matter what, I just wanted to know if you wanted to see a preview or have it be a surprise! Why are you like this! βοΈ did not think it was a good picture with only one big π¦, even though I said the other π¦ was fine and just running a π¦ errand or something. You are both such critics of this poor π».
Why is an example π€«? If you don't explain what you're being an example about, how is anyone supposed to know that you're being an example about anything? I don't think βοΈ is capable of reading minds. (I think...)
You did literally just type that, though! But you're wrong, you do need a reason to be nice, just like you need a reason to do anything else. And I don't see how being nice to π± does anything for me. What if I'm nice, and he doesn't appreciate it? Then I'm just going through the trouble of being nice for nothing. I don't see how he's earned that. Or maybe he pretends to be nice back, when he's actually not. I'd feel very stupid if that were the case. I don't want to be nice to anyone who won't be nice to me.
Hmmm. You can surprise me, I trust you. If you say you've drawn π¦, I'll believe you. I don't want to harangue the poor π» more than we already have. π Apparently βοΈ does have π¦ opinions after all, but only if they're a pair of π¦. He said they're good luck like that. Did you cave and add a second π¦?
Well, they just will know. They'll see a very impressive and noble sand cultivator and say 'That's a good example' and follow it.
Maybe there is a reason. If you're nice to π± he'll draw you π¦s? I don't know, is he really so much trouble to be nice to? If you're clever enough you can make being nice just as much fun as bullying. But it's understandable not to want to be nice to someone who isn't going to be nice back. Do you think that's likely?
Maybe I did! You'll just have to see, won't you? I don't know why you're surprised that βοΈ has π¦ opinions.
Hmm. I don't know about that. It doesn't sound believable that someone would say that. Not just about βοΈ! In general, too.
And I don't need him to draw π¦, when you can draw π¦. I bet your π¦ are better anyway. ...But I guess it's not that much more trouble to be nice. I don't know. It's just easier to not be, isn't it? And whether it's likely or not... He did yelp and stumble over himself when he saw me. And stare. And try to talk about me like I wasn't right there. Even if he would act exceedingly nice now, I don't know if I should believe him.
I didn't know π¦ were special, you can't blame me for not knowing there's even π¦ opinions to be had. π¦ are just π¦, where I'm from.
Well they would say it internally so you wouldn't know. π€βοΈ would probably say it externally though. Don't you want to show him up or are ants that much easier?
Hey, at least he didn't faint. But even Hanguang-jun was startled, right? And you can't doubt he's nice now. Think of it like people from my world having a grievous disadvantage in that there's mostly only humans to interact with and feel sorry for us. For π± I think after the first day he has a better chance of being reasonable than a lot of people would, odd as that might sound. Whatever else he is, he's not inflexible. Still, he better have apologized a lot because that's very rude even while adjusting, so some bullying is certainly in order (and very fun for me).
Even if they weren't special βοΈ can have opinions! Secretly I don't think you can have so many rules and not have opinions, which is an argument I'd really like to make some time.
Hmm... Is showing π€βοΈ up achievable? That feels a little outside my ability. He probably already has a twelve step plan on how to be the maximum amount of nice. How am I supposed to complete with that? My attempt would just look silly and sad compared to that. π are exceptionally easier. I'm better at those.
I can't believe you're using βοΈ against me. If I'm being honest, I bumped into βοΈ at first, so being startled and βοΈ could have been about that! It's different, you have to trust me. And I'm already very sorry for you that you mostly have only humans on your plane; it sounds very boring. ... But if you say that he's okay, then I don't want to not believe you. You were right about βοΈ being nice...
How much bullying to niceness is allowed? 60:40? 30:70? Are π forbidden? I'm probably not allowed to remove his doors, but what if I cast a darkness spell over his room? βπ―οΈ? Is that too mean? I'm not going to achieve π€βοΈ levels of nice, so I might as well try for π» levels of funny.
Is there a reason you can't make a rules argument? It sounds like a reasonable argument to make. What are rules if not opinions on how everyone should do things?
You'll never know it's outside your ability until you try. I don't think it would look silly anyway but I suppose π are much more rewarding in the short term.
Well, π± isn't as nice as βοΈ. Or I guess technically he's nicer, but mostly so he won't have to fight? You have that in common, not wanting to βοΈ. But you're very smart and want to learn things that aren't βοΈ, and he just wants to play around. Unfortunate for a clan leader but fun at βοΈβ°οΈ. I think if you cast a darkness spell over his room that would count as assisting his training but I also think he would cry so it's a grey area.
Thank you, they are definitely opinions! If you really freed yourself from the burden of having opinions it wouldn't matter if you ate three bowls of rice or ten, or if someone else didn't get any.
πΏπΏπ€ What would being nice to π± even look like?? I know being nice to π» is letting you be right about things and also saying silly stuff and getting πΆοΈππΆ together. And being nice to βοΈ is being polite and asking good questions and not making him use π± all the time. But I don't know what being nice to other people is supposed to be.
I could have guessed that π± doesn't like to βοΈ. Do people want to fight him a lot? Is that part of being a clan leader? I don't actually know what clan leaders do. Lead clans? That seems obvious, but unhelpful...
I don't think "freeing yourself from the burden of opinions" is actually a real thing. Who says that? It sounds very fake. How would you not have opinions about things? You'd have to be dead, I think. And even that might not work. I know π¦΄π» that still have too many opinions.
You didn't know what being nice to a π» looked like at first, I think I remember. And βοΈ had to be even harder to figure out! And yet you managed and I didn't even help that much beyond gentle and wise encouragement. π± has to be easier. Why is there no little fan picture? Maybe it's not easier or there'd be pictures to use.
You know, I don't think it is a part of it so much anymore, fighting people. But being afraid to fight monsters is an interesting trait in a cultivator. It's a little hard for me to believe he knows what clan leaders do either.
I think it's probably pretty fake too, or at least very hard to pull off. Having the opinion that having too many opinions is bad is probably already too many opinions. Very complicated, I will stick to just having the right amount of perfectly moderate opinions.
Maybe I'm bad at being nice to π±! Maybe it doesn't matter if I'm nice or not. Maybe I'm going to be nice to π± and he's still going to think that I'm scary. Maybe I'm happy enough being nice to π» and βοΈ and no one else. Besides, being nice to π» and βοΈ just sort of happened. I didn't think about it until afterwards. You said most of the silly things yourself and also invited yourself for πΆοΈππΆ, I barely had to do anything.
Why would you want a fan picture for π±? Does he like fans?
Right. Having an opinion on how many opinions others are allowed to have sounds very judgy and hypocritical. ππ€π» Normal amounts of opinions only here.
You don't know yet if you're bad at it or not! But you are probably right that he'll still think you're scary a little bit. But you're in good company, anyway. And still not scarier than βοΈ, for him. βοΈ was in charge of punishments at βοΈβ°οΈ, you just have unknown magic abilities and some grievance. Is not being scary the point of being nice?
And yes, he does. Like actually, and not just for hiding behind. Some of them don't even have pictures.
He would be beyond upset, π«π»β¨. π«βοΈπ»...more like π‘οΈπ». πβ¬ οΈπ». π΅π».
ππ€π»π€βοΈ. Except about π¦ opinions I guess.
Did βοΈ have to punish π± for misbehaving? I can't see it. βοΈ has a scary face sometimes, but it's like you've said, that's not on purpose. I don't think I've ever seen him upset, let alone punish someone.
...Well, maybe not. I've seen him chop an arm off, but that's extreme. Probably not the same thing, since π± still has both his arms.
I don't know if not being scary is the point of being nice. I don't think it's like that? More like being scary and being nice are counter-intuitive? Opposite sides of a scale? β Whatever being nice gets you, it's harder to do if people think you're scary. They don't see the other stuff. (Sort of like when I thought βοΈ was going to be mean, but he's actually very nice and now I like him a lot.) So the point of being nice isn't to not be scary, but rather being seen as nice is just what happens when people aren't afraid of you?
Are fans less good as fans if they don't have pictures? They're still good at what they do regardless of what's on them, just not as entertaining. Maybe more informational? Though I don't usually see guys using them... and definitely not now that it's getting colder.
πβ¬ οΈπ»! π΅π»! Amateur. π
π¦ opinions are now banned, I've decided. So we can all be ππ€π»π€βοΈ!
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What do you mean "invent the death magic"? How do you just invent death magic? That implies no one had death magic before???
βοΈ likes my faces, he wouldn't see it as a threat! Except if I use the π₯Ί face... I think he finds that one upsetting. Actually, on second though, don't show him that face! Just work on the π¦ and keep the faces to yourself. π€«
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Does it? Well someone probably did. Just not believable otherwise.
So bossy! Too bossy to be π₯Ί which is definitely a threat even if βοΈ doesn't realize it. π€«π» π¦π¦π¦ π«π₯Ί
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Which one is a scarier face? Be honest! I can't ask π± or we won't hear from him for two hours.
You can't say that you invented π»β¨ and then say someone else probably had it! I just can't imagine π»β¨ not existing already. People discover new spells all the time, but whole disciplines of magic? Not usually!
π€«π» π¦π€π€π€π€π€π€π€π€π€π€
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Well, exactly! Did you invent something if it already existed but wasn't in use? How can you know no one else ever knew about it? Surely they did. Anyway I didn't say that.
π€π€π€π€π€π€π€π€π€π€ββββββ You said a few! Not ten! I never knew ducks would be so popular. Are you adding more every time I talk back? π€«π»β
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It's really not fair for π» and βοΈ to not have eyebrows. Maybe you can draw those on, too~
I *guess* that makes more sense! That the magic existed but you just figured it out. That's sort of how I learned magic, too. It already existed; I just had to tinker with it.
Was it really ten π€? My finger must have slipped! π I *should* add more every time you talk back, though. That's a good idea. More π€! How many π€ can π¦ have?
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I think it would always have to have already existed, how would you just make it? It would be like waking up and just deciding to make a sixth element.
I don't know how many, ask π±! Ask a π¦! Ten is the limit if you ask me and I would definitely have to add a second duck then. From now on I'm only drawing things like plants and mountains which I will contemplate in silence.
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Agreed! The magic is always there, even if you don't know how to use it. No one "invents" magic, they just discover a new way to use it.
I don't think you can contemplate anything in silence. π€ I bet you're not even being silent right now! Imagine, you wouldn't have had to draw any ducks if you hadn't appealed to βοΈ to support your shoddy π¦ opinions~
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Exactly! Someone just has to have the idea.
This is so outrageous, all I did was show him the picture! And support his π¦ opinions which aren't shoddy. So mean, so much slander. If I weren't π€«π» I'd have to report this too.
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It's not his fault for not realizing it's not a duck. The hat and arms were left off, and I'm sure that's where the whole thing went awry. You don't have an excuse, I told you what it was from the beginning! π€«π» ππ¨π¦
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Do you want a picture of ducks or a picture of a picture of ducks? I have to show you fast before anyone else tries to increase the amount of ducks.
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And! Consider! I wouldn't even know what to say. I don't have a good reason to be nice. My only reason would be because you're doing it, and at that point you might as well be the one lecturing.
Who else is trying to increase the amount of π¦ besides me??? I want the picture! I asked for it first, didn't I? I'll hang it up next to the π¦΄π» so they can be friends~
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Calm down, you can have the picture no matter what, I just wanted to know if you wanted to see a preview or have it be a surprise! Why are you like this! βοΈ did not think it was a good picture with only one big π¦, even though I said the other π¦ was fine and just running a π¦ errand or something. You are both such critics of this poor π».
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You did literally just type that, though! But you're wrong, you do need a reason to be nice, just like you need a reason to do anything else. And I don't see how being nice to π± does anything for me. What if I'm nice, and he doesn't appreciate it? Then I'm just going through the trouble of being nice for nothing. I don't see how he's earned that. Or maybe he pretends to be nice back, when he's actually not. I'd feel very stupid if that were the case. I don't want to be nice to anyone who won't be nice to me.
Hmmm. You can surprise me, I trust you. If you say you've drawn π¦, I'll believe you. I don't want to harangue the poor π» more than we already have. π Apparently βοΈ does have π¦ opinions after all, but only if they're a pair of π¦. He said they're good luck like that. Did you cave and add a second π¦?
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Maybe there is a reason. If you're nice to π± he'll draw you π¦s? I don't know, is he really so much trouble to be nice to? If you're clever enough you can make being nice just as much fun as bullying. But it's understandable not to want to be nice to someone who isn't going to be nice back. Do you think that's likely?
Maybe I did! You'll just have to see, won't you? I don't know why you're surprised that βοΈ has π¦ opinions.
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And I don't need him to draw π¦, when you can draw π¦. I bet your π¦ are better anyway. ...But I guess it's not that much more trouble to be nice. I don't know. It's just easier to not be, isn't it? And whether it's likely or not... He did yelp and stumble over himself when he saw me. And stare. And try to talk about me like I wasn't right there. Even if he would act exceedingly nice now, I don't know if I should believe him.
I didn't know π¦ were special, you can't blame me for not knowing there's even π¦ opinions to be had. π¦ are just π¦, where I'm from.
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Hey, at least he didn't faint. But even Hanguang-jun was startled, right? And you can't doubt he's nice now. Think of it like people from my world having a grievous disadvantage in that there's mostly only humans to interact with and feel sorry for us. For π± I think after the first day he has a better chance of being reasonable than a lot of people would, odd as that might sound. Whatever else he is, he's not inflexible. Still, he better have apologized a lot because that's very rude even while adjusting, so some bullying is certainly in order (and very fun for me).
Even if they weren't special βοΈ can have opinions! Secretly I don't think you can have so many rules and not have opinions, which is an argument I'd really like to make some time.
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I can't believe you're using βοΈ against me. If I'm being honest, I bumped into βοΈ at first, so being startled and βοΈ could have been about that! It's different, you have to trust me. And I'm already very sorry for you that you mostly have only humans on your plane; it sounds very boring. ... But if you say that he's okay, then I don't want to not believe you. You were right about βοΈ being nice...
How much bullying to niceness is allowed? 60:40? 30:70? Are π forbidden? I'm probably not allowed to remove his doors, but what if I cast a darkness spell over his room? βπ―οΈ? Is that too mean? I'm not going to achieve π€βοΈ levels of nice, so I might as well try for π» levels of funny.
Is there a reason you can't make a rules argument? It sounds like a reasonable argument to make. What are rules if not opinions on how everyone should do things?
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Well, π± isn't as nice as βοΈ. Or I guess technically he's nicer, but mostly so he won't have to fight? You have that in common, not wanting to βοΈ. But you're very smart and want to learn things that aren't βοΈ, and he just wants to play around. Unfortunate for a clan leader but fun at βοΈβ°οΈ. I think if you cast a darkness spell over his room that would count as assisting his training but I also think he would cry so it's a grey area.
Thank you, they are definitely opinions! If you really freed yourself from the burden of having opinions it wouldn't matter if you ate three bowls of rice or ten, or if someone else didn't get any.
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I could have guessed that π± doesn't like to βοΈ. Do people want to fight him a lot? Is that part of being a clan leader? I don't actually know what clan leaders do. Lead clans? That seems obvious, but unhelpful...
I don't think "freeing yourself from the burden of opinions" is actually a real thing. Who says that? It sounds very fake. How would you not have opinions about things? You'd have to be dead, I think. And even that might not work. I know π¦΄π» that still have too many opinions.
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You know, I don't think it is a part of it so much anymore, fighting people. But being afraid to fight monsters is an interesting trait in a cultivator. It's a little hard for me to believe he knows what clan leaders do either.
I think it's probably pretty fake too, or at least very hard to pull off. Having the opinion that having too many opinions is bad is probably already too many opinions. Very complicated, I will stick to just having the right amount of perfectly moderate opinions.
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Why would you want a fan picture for π±? Does he like fans?
π±βοΈπ»? ...π±(π±βοΈ)(π«οΈπ»π¦΄π»π₯©π»)? Nevermind, he needs something other than π±, that's too confusing. He should also hope he doesn't get π»β¨. He'll be really upset if he has to see the π», along with the other creatures.
Right. Having an opinion on how many opinions others are allowed to have sounds very judgy and hypocritical. ππ€π» Normal amounts of opinions only here.
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And yes, he does. Like actually, and not just for hiding behind. Some of them don't even have pictures.
He would be beyond upset, π«π»β¨. π«βοΈπ»...more like π‘οΈπ». πβ¬ οΈπ». π΅π».
ππ€π»π€βοΈ. Except about π¦ opinions I guess.
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...Well, maybe not. I've seen him chop an arm off, but that's extreme. Probably not the same thing, since π± still has both his arms.
I don't know if not being scary is the point of being nice. I don't think it's like that? More like being scary and being nice are counter-intuitive? Opposite sides of a scale? β Whatever being nice gets you, it's harder to do if people think you're scary. They don't see the other stuff. (Sort of like when I thought βοΈ was going to be mean, but he's actually very nice and now I like him a lot.) So the point of being nice isn't to not be scary, but rather being seen as nice is just what happens when people aren't afraid of you?
Are fans less good as fans if they don't have pictures? They're still good at what they do regardless of what's on them, just not as entertaining. Maybe more informational? Though I don't usually see guys using them... and definitely not now that it's getting colder.
πβ¬ οΈπ»! π΅π»! Amateur. π
π¦ opinions are now banned, I've decided. So we can all be ππ€π»π€βοΈ!