😱 was probably just being unseemly in some way every time, that's not Lan Zhan's fault. I don't think 😱 would have done anything more to deserve it, wouldn't that take some real bravery? The faces are probably normal disapproval and not actually that scary. 😱 was at ☁️⛰️📜 so he has no excuse. Or maybe he spilled tea on him one time and ☁️ never forgave him. But I doubt it's that.
Fine! Do you want a big one or a little one? Water, reeds, flying? I need to know so I can get the best grade.
You act like normal disapproval isn't scary... 😱 does seem to roll around on the ground a lot, but is that really a reason for ☁️ faces? Agreed that 😱 couldn't have done anything too terrible. He'd faint in the middle of it and would never see the ⚔️ coming! Maybe he doesn't know how to ask good questions. Nor is he clever like 👻 or cute like 😈... 😔 Poor 😱...
Oh, I get to pick the duck??? Water and reeds! A big duck with a few little ducks! Just to be sure. Pretty please~
No, I don't want it. What would I even do with it? But I can still feel left out.
It's not all scary! Sometimes it's funny or not really disapproval. Not for 😱 though. I don't think rolling on the ground is the reason, because I do that too. I think you're just really not used to it, didn't I say he warmed up to you quickly, and that you'd know if he was ever really disapproving? Someday somebody will listen to me.
For someone who started this conversation questioning artistic value Klaudia suddenly has so many demands! But if it's what I have to do to defend my honor, and if you're going to make such a face...
How does that work? What do you feel left out about? What would not feeling left out look like?
You make rolling around on the ground look cool. 😱 just looks dumb. Also, I do listen to you! It's not my fault that I'm too cute to be disapproving at! It's my curse to bear. 😔 Maybe it was that I asked good questions, too. I think you said that once. (Listening!) 😱 should learn to ask good questions too, so he won't get disapproved at so much.
It's true, your honor is on the line. But there are no demanding 😈 here! You made the offer to let me pick! So I picked~ Do you not like that face? I can make others~
I didn't say it worked! At least 🤏☁️ has some of the same magic as I do. But nobody else! At least I didn't have to invent the death magic.
Cool 👻! I think the disapproving is important for 😱, the familiarity will keep him grounded. If he started asking good questions we'd all be overwhelmed with the strangeness.
I am aware you can make many faces but somehow that still sounds like a threat I should report to ☁️. Or I would, if I didn't have a duck to work on. Which is technically his fault.
Okay, well I'm not complaining about no one else having alchemy! You can share with 🤏☁️ and I'll share with ☁️, and we're not including 😱 in this because he can't even make a candlelight. ❌🕯️ I'm going to be the one making faces at him, just wait. 👿
What do you mean "invent the death magic"? How do you just invent death magic? That implies no one had death magic before???
☁️ likes my faces, he wouldn't see it as a threat! Except if I use the 🥺 face... I think he finds that one upsetting. Actually, on second though, don't show him that face! Just work on the 🦆 and keep the faces to yourself. 🤫
I'm including 😱 because it makes my argument stronger and also to be nice. I feel like someone has to! Especially if you're going to make faces at him and scold him for not studying. Like another 🤏☁️. 🤏😐. 🤣👻🤣👻🤣👻
Does it? Well someone probably did. Just not believable otherwise.
So bossy! Too bossy to be 🥺 which is definitely a threat even if ☁️ doesn't realize it. 🤫👻 🦆🦆🦆 🚫🥺
If 😱 makes your argument stronger, it must be a pretty weak argument... 🤭
Which one is a scarier face? Be honest! I can't ask 😱 or we won't hear from him for two hours.
You can't say that you invented 👻✨ and then say someone else probably had it! I just can't imagine 👻✨ not existing already. People discover new spells all the time, but whole disciplines of magic? Not usually!
What if I think they are equally scary but for different reasons? Is that allowed?
Well, exactly! Did you invent something if it already existed but wasn't in use? How can you know no one else ever knew about it? Surely they did. Anyway I didn't say that.
🐤🐤🐤🐤🐤🐤🐤🐤🐤🐤❗❓❗❓❗❓ You said a few! Not ten! I never knew ducks would be so popular. Are you adding more every time I talk back? 🤫👻❓
It's allowed, but only if you tell me the reasons~
It's really not fair for 👻 and ☁️ to not have eyebrows. Maybe you can draw those on, too~
I *guess* that makes more sense! That the magic existed but you just figured it out. That's sort of how I learned magic, too. It already existed; I just had to tinker with it.
Was it really ten 🐤? My finger must have slipped! 😔 I *should* add more every time you talk back, though. That's a good idea. More 🐤! How many 🐤 can 🦆 have?
The reasons are that for 👿 to be making that face something must surely be causing it, because it's out of the ordinary. For ☁️ it's more ordinary, but also, 🗡️. If we're talking for 😱 it's still a tie but once again for different reasons.
I think it would always have to have already existed, how would you just make it? It would be like waking up and just deciding to make a sixth element.
I don't know how many, ask 😱! Ask a 🦆! Ten is the limit if you ask me and I would definitely have to add a second duck then. From now on I'm only drawing things like plants and mountains which I will contemplate in silence.
Hmmm... That sounds right so far. What are the 😱 reasons??
Agreed! The magic is always there, even if you don't know how to use it. No one "invents" magic, they just discover a new way to use it.
I don't think you can contemplate anything in silence. 🤭 I bet you're not even being silent right now! Imagine, you wouldn't have had to draw any ducks if you hadn't appealed to ☁️ to support your shoddy 🦆 opinions~
Your disapproval is very fresh and new for 😱, and who knows what the consequences could be? He certainly doesn't. He doesn't even know you could make him see ants in his food, I bet. ☁️ would never do that, but his disapproval isn't new at all, just unavoidable. The newness will wear off quickly though and then ☁️ will be the scariest, unless you take steps to avoid it.
Exactly! Someone just has to have the idea.
This is so outrageous, all I did was show him the picture! And support his 🦆 opinions which aren't shoddy. So mean, so much slander. If I weren't 🤫👻 I'd have to report this too.
Maybe I will encourage his fear of my disapproval so that I can be the scariest. I can be more powerful than ☁️... 😈😈😈 Besides, if you've decided to be nice to him, then that means that I don't have to~
It's not his fault for not realizing it's not a duck. The hat and arms were left off, and I'm sure that's where the whole thing went awry. You don't have an excuse, I told you what it was from the beginning! 🤫👻 👍🎨🦆
It really doesn't mean that at all, but I do understand the appeal of a chance to be scarier than Hanguang-jun. But what if you were nicer to him than ☁️? Wouldn't that also be more powerful? It certainly might be more attainable. Imagine being a good example for ☁️. Do you think that's ever happened before?
Do you want a picture of ducks or a picture of a picture of ducks? I have to show you fast before anyone else tries to increase the amount of ducks.
Impossible. Being nicer than ☁️? Being a good example? I know you're probably joking, and it's very funny to think about, but consider that seriously for a moment! The face that ☁️ would make if I tried to seriously lecture him gives me shivers. It would make 😱 faint three times! 😱😩😱😩😱😩
And! Consider! I wouldn't even know what to say. I don't have a good reason to be nice. My only reason would be because you're doing it, and at that point you might as well be the one lecturing.
Who else is trying to increase the amount of 🦆 besides me??? I want the picture! I asked for it first, didn't I? I'll hang it up next to the 🦴👻 so they can be friends~
I don't see where it would be necessary to lecture ☁️, that's not what an example is for, an example is 🤫. Though you're right that it is very funny to think about. But where did I say anything about lecturing? I would never.🚫🚫🚫 If I were going to lecture I'd say you don't need a good reason to be nice, but I'm not so I won't.
Calm down, you can have the picture no matter what, I just wanted to know if you wanted to see a preview or have it be a surprise! Why are you like this! ☁️ did not think it was a good picture with only one big 🦆, even though I said the other 🦆 was fine and just running a 🦆 errand or something. You are both such critics of this poor 👻.
Why is an example 🤫? If you don't explain what you're being an example about, how is anyone supposed to know that you're being an example about anything? I don't think ☁️ is capable of reading minds. (I think...)
You did literally just type that, though! But you're wrong, you do need a reason to be nice, just like you need a reason to do anything else. And I don't see how being nice to 😱 does anything for me. What if I'm nice, and he doesn't appreciate it? Then I'm just going through the trouble of being nice for nothing. I don't see how he's earned that. Or maybe he pretends to be nice back, when he's actually not. I'd feel very stupid if that were the case. I don't want to be nice to anyone who won't be nice to me.
Hmmm. You can surprise me, I trust you. If you say you've drawn 🦆, I'll believe you. I don't want to harangue the poor 👻 more than we already have. 😔 Apparently ☁️ does have 🦆 opinions after all, but only if they're a pair of 🦆. He said they're good luck like that. Did you cave and add a second 🦆?
Well, they just will know. They'll see a very impressive and noble sand cultivator and say 'That's a good example' and follow it.
Maybe there is a reason. If you're nice to 😱 he'll draw you 🦆s? I don't know, is he really so much trouble to be nice to? If you're clever enough you can make being nice just as much fun as bullying. But it's understandable not to want to be nice to someone who isn't going to be nice back. Do you think that's likely?
Maybe I did! You'll just have to see, won't you? I don't know why you're surprised that ☁️ has 🦆 opinions.
Hmm. I don't know about that. It doesn't sound believable that someone would say that. Not just about ☁️! In general, too.
And I don't need him to draw 🦆, when you can draw 🦆. I bet your 🦆 are better anyway. ...But I guess it's not that much more trouble to be nice. I don't know. It's just easier to not be, isn't it? And whether it's likely or not... He did yelp and stumble over himself when he saw me. And stare. And try to talk about me like I wasn't right there. Even if he would act exceedingly nice now, I don't know if I should believe him.
I didn't know 🦆 were special, you can't blame me for not knowing there's even 🦆 opinions to be had. 🦆 are just 🦆, where I'm from.
Well they would say it internally so you wouldn't know. 🤏☁️ would probably say it externally though. Don't you want to show him up or are ants that much easier?
Hey, at least he didn't faint. But even Hanguang-jun was startled, right? And you can't doubt he's nice now. Think of it like people from my world having a grievous disadvantage in that there's mostly only humans to interact with and feel sorry for us. For 😱 I think after the first day he has a better chance of being reasonable than a lot of people would, odd as that might sound. Whatever else he is, he's not inflexible. Still, he better have apologized a lot because that's very rude even while adjusting, so some bullying is certainly in order (and very fun for me).
Even if they weren't special ☁️ can have opinions! Secretly I don't think you can have so many rules and not have opinions, which is an argument I'd really like to make some time.
Hmm... Is showing 🤏☁️ up achievable? That feels a little outside my ability. He probably already has a twelve step plan on how to be the maximum amount of nice. How am I supposed to complete with that? My attempt would just look silly and sad compared to that. 🐜 are exceptionally easier. I'm better at those.
I can't believe you're using ☁️ against me. If I'm being honest, I bumped into ☁️ at first, so being startled and ⚔️ could have been about that! It's different, you have to trust me. And I'm already very sorry for you that you mostly have only humans on your plane; it sounds very boring. ... But if you say that he's okay, then I don't want to not believe you. You were right about ☁️ being nice...
How much bullying to niceness is allowed? 60:40? 30:70? Are 🐜 forbidden? I'm probably not allowed to remove his doors, but what if I cast a darkness spell over his room? ❌🕯️? Is that too mean? I'm not going to achieve 🤏☁️ levels of nice, so I might as well try for 👻 levels of funny.
Is there a reason you can't make a rules argument? It sounds like a reasonable argument to make. What are rules if not opinions on how everyone should do things?
You'll never know it's outside your ability until you try. I don't think it would look silly anyway but I suppose 🐜 are much more rewarding in the short term.
Well, 😱 isn't as nice as ☁️. Or I guess technically he's nicer, but mostly so he won't have to fight? You have that in common, not wanting to ⚔️. But you're very smart and want to learn things that aren't ⚔️, and he just wants to play around. Unfortunate for a clan leader but fun at ☁️⛰️. I think if you cast a darkness spell over his room that would count as assisting his training but I also think he would cry so it's a grey area.
Thank you, they are definitely opinions! If you really freed yourself from the burden of having opinions it wouldn't matter if you ate three bowls of rice or ten, or if someone else didn't get any.
👿👿😤 What would being nice to 😱 even look like?? I know being nice to 👻 is letting you be right about things and also saying silly stuff and getting 🌶️🍜🍶 together. And being nice to ☁️ is being polite and asking good questions and not making him use 📱 all the time. But I don't know what being nice to other people is supposed to be.
I could have guessed that 😱 doesn't like to ⚔️. Do people want to fight him a lot? Is that part of being a clan leader? I don't actually know what clan leaders do. Lead clans? That seems obvious, but unhelpful...
I don't think "freeing yourself from the burden of opinions" is actually a real thing. Who says that? It sounds very fake. How would you not have opinions about things? You'd have to be dead, I think. And even that might not work. I know 🦴👻 that still have too many opinions.
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Date: 2021-11-21 12:37 am (UTC)☁️ doesn't seem to like 😱 very much... Is there a reason for that? He makes such scary faces, like he did when I first ran into him! (Except no ⚔️)
Hmmm... 🤔 Prove you know how 🦆 look! Draw one! I want to see it.
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Date: 2021-11-21 01:17 am (UTC)😱 was probably just being unseemly in some way every time, that's not Lan Zhan's fault. I don't think 😱 would have done anything more to deserve it, wouldn't that take some real bravery? The faces are probably normal disapproval and not actually that scary. 😱 was at ☁️⛰️📜 so he has no excuse. Or maybe he spilled tea on him one time and ☁️ never forgave him. But I doubt it's that.
Fine! Do you want a big one or a little one? Water, reeds, flying? I need to know so I can get the best grade.
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Date: 2021-11-21 01:35 am (UTC)You act like normal disapproval isn't scary... 😱 does seem to roll around on the ground a lot, but is that really a reason for ☁️ faces? Agreed that 😱 couldn't have done anything too terrible. He'd faint in the middle of it and would never see the ⚔️ coming! Maybe he doesn't know how to ask good questions. Nor is he clever like 👻 or cute like 😈... 😔 Poor 😱...
Oh, I get to pick the duck??? Water and reeds! A big duck with a few little ducks! Just to be sure. Pretty please~
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Date: 2021-11-21 03:43 am (UTC)It's not all scary! Sometimes it's funny or not really disapproval. Not for 😱 though. I don't think rolling on the ground is the reason, because I do that too. I think you're just really not used to it, didn't I say he warmed up to you quickly, and that you'd know if he was ever really disapproving? Someday somebody will listen to me.
For someone who started this conversation questioning artistic value Klaudia suddenly has so many demands! But if it's what I have to do to defend my honor, and if you're going to make such a face...
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Date: 2021-11-21 04:35 am (UTC)You make rolling around on the ground look cool. 😱 just looks dumb. Also, I do listen to you! It's not my fault that I'm too cute to be disapproving at! It's my curse to bear. 😔 Maybe it was that I asked good questions, too. I think you said that once. (Listening!) 😱 should learn to ask good questions too, so he won't get disapproved at so much.
It's true, your honor is on the line. But there are no demanding 😈 here! You made the offer to let me pick! So I picked~ Do you not like that face? I can make others~
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Date: 2021-11-21 06:43 pm (UTC)Cool 👻! I think the disapproving is important for 😱, the familiarity will keep him grounded. If he started asking good questions we'd all be overwhelmed with the strangeness.
I am aware you can make many faces but somehow that still sounds like a threat I should report to ☁️. Or I would, if I didn't have a duck to work on. Which is technically his fault.
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Date: 2021-11-21 09:20 pm (UTC)What do you mean "invent the death magic"? How do you just invent death magic? That implies no one had death magic before???
☁️ likes my faces, he wouldn't see it as a threat! Except if I use the 🥺 face... I think he finds that one upsetting. Actually, on second though, don't show him that face! Just work on the 🦆 and keep the faces to yourself. 🤫
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Date: 2021-11-21 09:51 pm (UTC)Does it? Well someone probably did. Just not believable otherwise.
So bossy! Too bossy to be 🥺 which is definitely a threat even if ☁️ doesn't realize it. 🤫👻 🦆🦆🦆 🚫🥺
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Date: 2021-11-21 11:34 pm (UTC)Which one is a scarier face? Be honest! I can't ask 😱 or we won't hear from him for two hours.
You can't say that you invented 👻✨ and then say someone else probably had it! I just can't imagine 👻✨ not existing already. People discover new spells all the time, but whole disciplines of magic? Not usually!
🤫👻 🦆🐤🐤🐤🐤🐤🐤🐤🐤🐤🐤
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Date: 2021-11-22 12:06 am (UTC)Well, exactly! Did you invent something if it already existed but wasn't in use? How can you know no one else ever knew about it? Surely they did. Anyway I didn't say that.
🐤🐤🐤🐤🐤🐤🐤🐤🐤🐤❗❓❗❓❗❓ You said a few! Not ten! I never knew ducks would be so popular. Are you adding more every time I talk back? 🤫👻❓
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Date: 2021-11-22 12:51 am (UTC)It's really not fair for 👻 and ☁️ to not have eyebrows. Maybe you can draw those on, too~
I *guess* that makes more sense! That the magic existed but you just figured it out. That's sort of how I learned magic, too. It already existed; I just had to tinker with it.
Was it really ten 🐤? My finger must have slipped! 😔 I *should* add more every time you talk back, though. That's a good idea. More 🐤! How many 🐤 can 🦆 have?
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Date: 2021-11-22 01:21 am (UTC)I think it would always have to have already existed, how would you just make it? It would be like waking up and just deciding to make a sixth element.
I don't know how many, ask 😱! Ask a 🦆! Ten is the limit if you ask me and I would definitely have to add a second duck then. From now on I'm only drawing things like plants and mountains which I will contemplate in silence.
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Date: 2021-11-22 01:54 am (UTC)Agreed! The magic is always there, even if you don't know how to use it. No one "invents" magic, they just discover a new way to use it.
I don't think you can contemplate anything in silence. 🤭 I bet you're not even being silent right now! Imagine, you wouldn't have had to draw any ducks if you hadn't appealed to ☁️ to support your shoddy 🦆 opinions~
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Date: 2021-11-22 02:25 am (UTC)Exactly! Someone just has to have the idea.
This is so outrageous, all I did was show him the picture! And support his 🦆 opinions which aren't shoddy. So mean, so much slander. If I weren't 🤫👻 I'd have to report this too.
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Date: 2021-11-22 06:45 am (UTC)It's not his fault for not realizing it's not a duck. The hat and arms were left off, and I'm sure that's where the whole thing went awry. You don't have an excuse, I told you what it was from the beginning! 🤫👻 👍🎨🦆
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Date: 2021-11-24 10:25 pm (UTC)Do you want a picture of ducks or a picture of a picture of ducks? I have to show you fast before anyone else tries to increase the amount of ducks.
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Date: 2021-11-25 12:03 am (UTC)And! Consider! I wouldn't even know what to say. I don't have a good reason to be nice. My only reason would be because you're doing it, and at that point you might as well be the one lecturing.
Who else is trying to increase the amount of 🦆 besides me??? I want the picture! I asked for it first, didn't I? I'll hang it up next to the 🦴👻 so they can be friends~
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Date: 2021-11-25 12:23 am (UTC)Calm down, you can have the picture no matter what, I just wanted to know if you wanted to see a preview or have it be a surprise! Why are you like this! ☁️ did not think it was a good picture with only one big 🦆, even though I said the other 🦆 was fine and just running a 🦆 errand or something. You are both such critics of this poor 👻.
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Date: 2021-11-25 12:48 am (UTC)You did literally just type that, though! But you're wrong, you do need a reason to be nice, just like you need a reason to do anything else. And I don't see how being nice to 😱 does anything for me. What if I'm nice, and he doesn't appreciate it? Then I'm just going through the trouble of being nice for nothing. I don't see how he's earned that. Or maybe he pretends to be nice back, when he's actually not. I'd feel very stupid if that were the case. I don't want to be nice to anyone who won't be nice to me.
Hmmm. You can surprise me, I trust you. If you say you've drawn 🦆, I'll believe you. I don't want to harangue the poor 👻 more than we already have. 😔 Apparently ☁️ does have 🦆 opinions after all, but only if they're a pair of 🦆. He said they're good luck like that. Did you cave and add a second 🦆?
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Date: 2021-11-25 01:20 am (UTC)Maybe there is a reason. If you're nice to 😱 he'll draw you 🦆s? I don't know, is he really so much trouble to be nice to? If you're clever enough you can make being nice just as much fun as bullying. But it's understandable not to want to be nice to someone who isn't going to be nice back. Do you think that's likely?
Maybe I did! You'll just have to see, won't you? I don't know why you're surprised that ☁️ has 🦆 opinions.
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Date: 2021-11-25 01:44 am (UTC)And I don't need him to draw 🦆, when you can draw 🦆. I bet your 🦆 are better anyway. ...But I guess it's not that much more trouble to be nice. I don't know. It's just easier to not be, isn't it? And whether it's likely or not... He did yelp and stumble over himself when he saw me. And stare. And try to talk about me like I wasn't right there. Even if he would act exceedingly nice now, I don't know if I should believe him.
I didn't know 🦆 were special, you can't blame me for not knowing there's even 🦆 opinions to be had. 🦆 are just 🦆, where I'm from.
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Date: 2021-11-25 09:44 pm (UTC)Hey, at least he didn't faint. But even Hanguang-jun was startled, right? And you can't doubt he's nice now. Think of it like people from my world having a grievous disadvantage in that there's mostly only humans to interact with and feel sorry for us. For 😱 I think after the first day he has a better chance of being reasonable than a lot of people would, odd as that might sound. Whatever else he is, he's not inflexible. Still, he better have apologized a lot because that's very rude even while adjusting, so some bullying is certainly in order (and very fun for me).
Even if they weren't special ☁️ can have opinions! Secretly I don't think you can have so many rules and not have opinions, which is an argument I'd really like to make some time.
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Date: 2021-11-25 11:00 pm (UTC)I can't believe you're using ☁️ against me. If I'm being honest, I bumped into ☁️ at first, so being startled and ⚔️ could have been about that! It's different, you have to trust me. And I'm already very sorry for you that you mostly have only humans on your plane; it sounds very boring. ... But if you say that he's okay, then I don't want to not believe you. You were right about ☁️ being nice...
How much bullying to niceness is allowed? 60:40? 30:70? Are 🐜 forbidden? I'm probably not allowed to remove his doors, but what if I cast a darkness spell over his room? ❌🕯️? Is that too mean? I'm not going to achieve 🤏☁️ levels of nice, so I might as well try for 👻 levels of funny.
Is there a reason you can't make a rules argument? It sounds like a reasonable argument to make. What are rules if not opinions on how everyone should do things?
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Date: 2021-11-26 10:38 pm (UTC)Well, 😱 isn't as nice as ☁️. Or I guess technically he's nicer, but mostly so he won't have to fight? You have that in common, not wanting to ⚔️. But you're very smart and want to learn things that aren't ⚔️, and he just wants to play around. Unfortunate for a clan leader but fun at ☁️⛰️. I think if you cast a darkness spell over his room that would count as assisting his training but I also think he would cry so it's a grey area.
Thank you, they are definitely opinions! If you really freed yourself from the burden of having opinions it wouldn't matter if you ate three bowls of rice or ten, or if someone else didn't get any.
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Date: 2021-11-27 02:08 am (UTC)I could have guessed that 😱 doesn't like to ⚔️. Do people want to fight him a lot? Is that part of being a clan leader? I don't actually know what clan leaders do. Lead clans? That seems obvious, but unhelpful...
I don't think "freeing yourself from the burden of opinions" is actually a real thing. Who says that? It sounds very fake. How would you not have opinions about things? You'd have to be dead, I think. And even that might not work. I know 🦴👻 that still have too many opinions.
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