Have you maybe looked at your clothes at all??? Even once? I guess I could see roguish or practical, but without the red bits, you look like you're about to send someone off to Kelemvor. β°οΈπβοΈ
What does βοΈ have to do with any of that? White is a perfectly good color, though a little bland. Very paladin-y, as we've discussed before! π‘οΈπβ¨
I'm not mad at anything! Except maybe the way that you're saying "people who do laundry"... Are you not one of those people??? Do you not do laundry??? π°
Of course πΌ mean things, that's why I asked! That's neat, though. I wasn't sure you liked noble things.
You can't truly know how much this π» is suffering right now. I don't know where Kelemvor is! I don't know what the paladin color is! I didn't think they had one, you said they don't have a place either. And I'm telling you, βοΈ clothes are the more similar to mourning clothes, it's the β¬π and the sleeves, though of course they're finer and brighter and that's what you're meant to focus on, not anything inauspicious. So you see why I'm suffering. π«β°οΈπ«ππ«βοΈπ«πβ¨ββββ
I do laundry and I respect myself and that means not having to excessively scrub chili oil or grass out of my clothes.
What does that mean? Why wouldn't I? I feel like I'm being made fun of. π₯Ί
Kelemvor (πβοΈ) is a god, not a place! He's the god of death, so when people die, they go to him! And he sorts them out to their various afterlives and whatnot... or keeps them, if they don't have one. All of his priests dress in grey, but a lot of other gods and goddesses that deal with death use black, so both of those colors are just very deathly! Very fitting for a π», though?
And paladins are usually in... good??? colors??? Or at least good ones are. White is a given. Silver, too! Or gold! Or whatever their gods use. They have places, it's just not all *one* place. It's... wherever their god or goddess has a temple? Which could be anywhere? I don't know, it's weird that your places are color coordinated!
Is white really a death color where you're from? That's so weird... So does Lan Wangji look really creepy, then? I can't imagine it.
I am glad you're doing your laundry, you had me worried! No unclean π»s here! Just slightly chili-scented π»s...
If anyone is making fun of you, it's you from several months ago! When I asked you what you wanted to reincarnate as, you said you should pick something noble, but you didn't really care! Or something like that. So I didn't think you'd care about noble flowers, either.
Very fitting for a π»!! Black is plenty deathly too, just more in terms of energy and not funerals, which is what you accused me of. βοΈ does not look creepy! Just very somber and untouchable and unworldly. I'm not explaining this very well, probably because I feel very attacked. Why are there so many death gods? What does it mean if one keeps you, is that not an afterlife? Are you just in a jar then? Pressed in a book like a flower? Or do you have to work, like a servant?
So paladins are just...monks that go out and do things? That makes sense, βοΈ's clan was founded by a monk. I bet paladins in gold are extremely obnoxious, I'm annoyed just hearing this.
Stop remembering things I've said, it's scary. Ideally you don't have to be anything less noble than a person, but I was just being realistic! And realistically do you think a π·οΈ feels less noble than a π¦? The π·οΈ is probably just as happy, and probably only we care if it is noble or not. So as I'm still a π», I obviously care about noble πΌ. But these are just word games, like with names.
A sleepy π»! Are you getting tired of answering questions? I have at least three more pockets full of them, but I guess I can answer yours instead~
There's a lot of death gods because... there's a lot of people? I'm not sure about that one. I haven't studied religion, so I've just picked up things here and there. But I do know that sometimes gods are killed, and they have to be replaced! So not only are there a lot of them, but there's been a lot more over the centuries. (For instance, the previous god of death was killed in the city I'm from; and Kelemvor ascended to godhood along with Cyric and Mystra. That gets talked about A Lot.)
I don't know what it means if Kelemvor keeps you! I just know that usually people are shuffled to their respective deities after they die, but if they're Faithless or False, then Kelemvor keeps them with him. Faithless being if they don't have a deity and False if they didn't follow them right? I guess it's sort of like godly leftovers? They have to go somewhere. I don't think he makes dead souls work for him, though. He's supposed to be very neutral and fair, so it's probably a very normal and average afterlife? I don't think about it too much, since it probably doesn't concern me anyway.
Paladins in gold are probably obnoxious, agreed! I love gold, it's very flashy! But anyone who wears it a lot is only interested in getting people to look at them. (But in my defense people *should* look at me, I'm adorable~)
And I'll stop remembering things that you say when you stop saying things! Which will be never. I think a π¦ is better than a π·οΈ, but I don't know about more noble? I don't know that nobility matters??? But it can matter to you if you want, so you are allowed to care about noble πΌ.
(A noble π»???) Can I ask another small question of this most noble π»? Why are orchids considered noble?
There's no way you can have so many questions left, I've answered at least half of all the questions in the world. I'm still stuck on this normal average afterlife with a neutral fair death god though. You'd have to be doing something, right? Or it wouldn't be normal, it'd be bad. And what do you mean it only probably doesn't concern you?
That does make sense. You can wear gold and make people look at you and it's fine, because you're adorable and not obnoxious, and you admit that's why you'd be doing it. Obviously if a paladin did it it would be very different because they'd never admit it.
Well what is better if not more noble? You can't say just liking π¦ over π·οΈ means one is better, or more noble. You can't just say a π» is noble either! But fine, I can explain, and not leave all the responsibility of educating the younger generations to βοΈ. Orchids are like the gentry of flowers because they're the height of beauty and refinement, fragrant without being intoxicating, grow in seclusion and harsh weather without a need for admiration, and are an ideal subject for painting studies and scholarly pursuits. I know you're going to say that's nonsense and πΌ are πΌ, but you would have to take it up with scholars! I'm just the messenger π».
I think the last time you challenged how many questions I could have, you ended up writing an essay about a mountain~
I guess you'd be doing something in the afterlife??? I'm not sure, like I said, I haven't looked it up and also it doesn't concern me! I'm not going to have an afterlife, I'm going to go straight on to being a π¦. I've already decided it, and I don't care what anyone else says. If Kelemvor or anyone wants me, they're going to have to catch me. Exclusions may apply, but only for SelΓ»ne because she's cool.
π¦ are only better than π·οΈ because if I'm a π¦ and you're a π·οΈ, then I'm worried I might eat you! That would be awful. Also people squish π·οΈ, and they just generally aren't well liked! I don't think nobility has anything to do with either. What even *is* nobility, really? I feel like I'm starting to forget what it's supposed to mean. Nobility. Nobility. Nobility.
Wow, I'm offended that you think I'd say πΌ are πΌ. I can appreciate that orchids are very pretty flowers and also difficult to grow right. I don't know about admiration (Do other flowers actually need admiration? Or do people just like to think they like to be admired? Sounds like that's putting a lot of pressure on the flowers?) but I'm sure people love to draw them and study them. They're bilaterally symmetrical, and a certain amount of symmetry is always visually pleasing. Not that radial symmetry isn't good too, but it's much more common in flowers, which makes orchids fairly unique.
So I will graciously accept this noble flower and place it delicately in my hair where it belongs~
And I just wrote another essay, so clearly I'm an unteachable π».
Don't you think maybe the god of the normal neutral average afterlife for boring souls might be good at catching souls? Or maybe not if they're usually boring. Why's SelΓ»ne cool? Can you just dedicate yourself to her so you don't have to be a π¦ or are you just really heart set on the π¦ thing?
You're too hung up on the eating, some π·οΈ eat π¦ and you don't seem to be worried about this at all! I don't like that even from my current non π·οΈ non π¦ perspective. As for being squished, it's against the rules at βοΈβ°οΈ so I would just go there.
You're also too hung up on the nobility! It's just a shorthand, like πΌ. Though maybe they do care a lot about admiration, and that's how you get πΌπ».
So glad my πΌπ meets with Klaudia-laoshi's approval.
Unteachable π»! But very pretty with his crown of noble πΌ~
Maybe Kelemvor has so many boring, average souls to look after that I'll sneak right by and out the afterlife door~ π¦ life, here I come~
I'm not particularly heart set on being a π¦. It'd be nice to have a normal afterlife, I think? Not that I'm not enjoying this life, to be clear! I am having a great time doing whatever I want and being π, and I have no intention of not being π for a very long time. I just don't really know if tieflings have normal afterlives or not? Maybe it doesn't matter what I want or who I'm dedicated to. Maybe the gods don't want me. Maybe tieflings are already spoken for. I don't know. Maybe it's just being practical that I make some plans to run out the backdoor of whatever soul plane I end up on, just in case Kelemvor ships me off to some devils I've never heard of.
It's a lot of maybes, and I don't know that anyone has any good answers. So planning to be a π¦ is just easier, isn't it? But SelΓ»ne is already very cool for reasons I shouldn't have to explain, but I guess I will!!! Just so you can understand that it's not all bad, I promise.
SelΓ»ne is primarily the goddess of the moon, but also navigation, the stars, and anyone who finds themself lost or searching. She's supposed to be ever-changing as the moon--sometimes joyful and energetic, sometimes subdued and tranquil, sometimes sad and mournful, and sometimes fierce and cold. But above all, in all her iterations, she's supposed to be caring and forgiving. She's the one who made the world what it is, and she's fiercely protective of it. If you're lost at sea or on land (or even just need some kind of metaphorical guidance???), then she's there to help guide you to safety. Or if you need protection to make it through the night, then she's there for that too. She sees everything that happens under the light of the moon, and she controls fate itself... So if anyone can tell Kelemvor to take a hike, I'm sure it's her. Which is why being a π¦ fugitive is only a Plan B, just in case.
I have a lot of other cool stories about her, but this is already so much. A tired π» is going to fall asleep again by the time I'm done. π
I don't want to meet a π·οΈ that eats a π¦. All π·οΈ except those π·οΈ can live happy lives on βοΈβ°οΈ. I know we made a π«π·οΈ pact and everything, but I'll make a nice π·οΈ home to give to βοΈ so that a π»π·οΈ will have a place to stay, just in case. Do π·οΈ like a lot of rooms? Do they all have to be red? That might clash with βοΈ colors, so there might have to be some compromises made.
(Also, I'm not hung up on the nobility, you're hung up on the nobility. Nobility Nobility Nobility. What is it shorthand for? More nobility? The noble nobility of nobles that are nobly noble.)
I'm sure the devils would be lucky to have you, but I'll βοΈ them if they aren't. I have to say though, even if it's not all bad it still sounds a little bad to me? Not very nice for the souls. Best to stay a π, this π» agrees.
SelΓ»ne sounds really good though. Fate, and everything that happens under the light of the moon? She must be very busy, but it sounds like she can handle it. Does she get paladins? What colors do they wear? π»π«π΄
The π·οΈ rooms can be whatever color you think best, I wouldn't want to clash with all the βοΈ tranquility and all. I would be a good π·οΈ to live with except for the no killing, because I don't think π·οΈ can eat vegetables. Maybe there's a bug that eats books that I could be vigilant for.
Stop saying nobility! It's a shorthand for all those other things I said! This is how words work and I don't know why you're like this!
SelΓ»ne is very good, thank you for noticing~ πππ
Her colors are blue and silver, but the clergy I've seen usually wear white when they're in official dress. Maybe silver is too gaudy? Armor is silvery in color though, and that's probably fine for paladins. (No gold! They're not obnoxious~) They're probably not around anymore, but there used to be a whole order of them called the Guardians of Light. But that was over 1500 years ago. I don't know what they're called now, if anything. Since SelΓ»ne doesn't particularly favor fighting, I think it's more usual to see clerics and priests dedicated to her than paladins. Or druids, maybe?
Maybe the π·οΈ rooms can be red on the inside and blue on the outside~ Best of both worlds! Are animals not immune to the no killing rule? You would think that they'd let a π·οΈ be a π·οΈ and eat a bug or two...
And I am like this because it's funny. π€ So nobility is just... beauty and refinement and... nice smells? Seclusion? Not needing admiration? I think I got lost on which part was nobility and which part was just the flower. But if you put it like that, then can't anyone be nobility? Why can't a π» be noble?
ππππ»πππ A shame they don't exist anymore, I bet they looked very impressive.
Maybe animals are immune, but maybe that's just because all the π·οΈ can't read. Maybe I should have tried that.
Well in theory I guess some of that is just nobility for flowers only. And in theory nobility for people is mostly for nobles, but obviously that's nonsense, there are some very ignoble nobles out there. But I'm not sure π» can be, didn't you just worry that I don't clean my clothes? And I need so much admiration, maybe being noble is too boring. For everyone else, you can just decide for yourself. Or ask Lan Zhan.
Oh, you can't pretend that you can't read. I tried that excuse already. π But maybe π·οΈ are allowed because they aren't lying about it. I bet that would have worked if I was a π¦.
If there can be ignoble nobles, there should be noble... not-nobles? Ignobles? I don't think that can be a noun, but it should be. Anyway, if being noble is too boring, why care about noble πΌ? You were literally just complaining because I expressed surprise that you liked noble things! Make up your mind. Wait, no, hold on...
(βοΈ voice) Don't be of two minds. π
π€π€π€ I did worry that you didn't clean your clothes, but only because you said things and I remembered them. You're a very clean π». And a very admirable π»! I don't think that should knock you out of the nobility running. If wanting admiration excluded you from being nobility, I think there wouldn't be any nobles at all.
That being said! I don't actually know if you are or not... You said βοΈ was, right? And you like to talk about being equal! So... *are* you a noble π»? π» noble? I would like to know before I say any more silly things about nobles. You know, just in case. πππ (No offense faces!)
You tried to tell Lan Zhan you can't read? π»π€ That's the spirit. I've already told him that π₯¬ are bad for your cultivation.
There are certainly people who are noble regardless of bloodline, and they are very admirable (but not seeking to be admired) and some who are noble both ways. But what does liking noble πΌ have to do with whether or not I'm noble myself? Aren't πΌ for everyone? Maybe not for you, don't π at me. Quoting rules is allowed though because it is very funny.
You can say as many silly things about nobles as you want, regardless. But before you accuse me of being dodgy again, I'll tell you that I'm not one, as in in direct line of succession of a cultivation sect, one of the great five or otherwise. Not like βοΈ. When I said equal, wasn't I talking about βοΈ specifically? So you can keep these πππ for later use.
π₯¬ *are* bad for my cultivation, that's not a lie. I'll get sick and die. β°οΈπΏπ΅ You don't want that.
I like πΌ, they're for me! They can be for everyone. No one has a monopoly on flowers, and if they do, we can both fight them. βοΈβοΈβοΈ
It's just... Hmm. I don't know how to put it. You know a lot of things! Like about noble flowers and scholars and your cultivation stuff, even if you say you're only a messenger. And it makes me wonder how you know them? What sort of π» learns the things that you've learned, etc. What did you do back on your plane? Did you have a job? Or some sort of pursuit of study? Other than being a ghost expert, of course!
I don't, I don't! That's why I told him. It could even be true, for all I know. Hypothetically. If you were a cultivator in the traditional sense.
So you can like noble things without question, is that it? (βοΈ voice) Hm.
No, it was just ghost expertise for me π But not being an heir doesn't mean I couldn't be a cultivator or learn things, what are you asking me, Klaudia-laoshi? Believe it or not I'm a gentleman, learned in the six arts, brought up in a well regarded sect, went to βοΈβ°οΈ lectures, ranked fourth most eligible on the list of young masters for my generation π I can't believe you've seen through my humility.
...Can people really get sick and die from π₯¬??? What kind of π₯¬ do you have? And how does βοΈ eat them all the time???
Don't βοΈ voice at me! If you can like noble things, I can like them even more because I'm not the one calling them noble. They are just things! Normal things!
Also, your humility is like a glass window that has just been cleaned. So clear! Not a speck of dirt to obscure my sight! There might not even be any glass at all! π
But you are a fancy gentleman! I thought so... That's the part that seemed kinda weird? I don't know what the six arts are, but those sound important. Are they arts, or Arts? And βοΈβ°οΈ lectures are obviously important, but those aren't for everyone? You can't just go to βοΈβ°οΈ and get lectures? It's a shame you were so very eligible and yet weren't eligible for humility lectures, sorry for your lot. π
What sort of well regarded sect were you brought up in? That's like βοΈ stuff, right? But like... ππΆοΈπ«β°οΈ? There is probably a better picture for that, but I don't know what it is.
Obviously he is more powerful than the π₯¬, which explains a lot. Without the π₯¬ for balance, who knows what would happen.
So when you like things you can only call them normal and not make any reference to what you like about them? This is interesting, tell me more.
Well if it's so clear why did you have to make sure? A π» can't win, it seems like. Either I'm properly humble and it seems weird, or maybe not being humble is also weird! Maybe you're just going to say I'm weird no matter what! And I don't know what you mean, they're the arts you learn to be respectable. And who is everyone? βοΈβ°οΈ lectures are for the older and higher ranked disciples of other cultivation sects. If you were just curious or looking for free meals, you wouldn't have a good time anyway. Only π might, even without cultivation, just as long as you timed the questions for just as they're being answered so you don't have to ask them. And if there is a need for humility lectures, I'll give them, because that's just how eligible I am.
Unfortunately there isn't a better picture, I've already tried. And I already said it's pretty different from βοΈ stuff specifically! Rather than being founded by a monk, it was founded by a ranger. Less rules and scholarly sleeves and music, more free spiritedness and directness and archery. Lakes and ponds and liveliness instead of being hidden away on a β°οΈ. Food that doesn't taste like poorly disguised medicine and that you could actually hunt for. But still βοΈ, π§. πββ
I'm being mad fun of. π₯Ίπ₯Ίπ₯Ί I just mean that I like things because I like things. If orchids weren't noble, would you still like them?
You *are* weird no matter what, I'm surprised it took you so long to figure out~ π€ The Arts are different from the arts! The Arts is what people sometimes call magic (cultivation?), but I guess you're talking about actual arts? Like painting and poetry and stuff?
I would have a great time on βοΈβ°οΈ, and I would have so many questions stuffed into my pockets by the time I got there that they would have to host a lecture just for me. But don't worry, I'll make sure to set aside time for you humility lectures, too~ (You will need someone to observe for correctness, right?)
Do you have a lot of rangers then? And rangerly-like things? Nature? πΉ and π! That makes sense, I think. Especially for you. π€ No wonder you're so knowledgeable about living in the woods. Does that mean you also know how to πΉ as well as βοΈ? You would have to πΉ in order to hunt, right?
(Are you asking me to grade your essay again? Is that πβ? Are you sure you can take it?)
You are, but you started it. And if orchids weren't noble would they still be orchids at all? So how can I answer, if I like them for what they are, and what they are makes them noble?
See what I mean about you starting it? But yes, I mean actual arts and not magic or cultivation. Like calligraphy, and math.
The worst part is I believe you would. You would set an impossible standard for all the students after you, and they'd put your picture up probably on the rules wall, and you'd need my humility lectures very sorely (and have to throw so many things due to my correctness).
I suppose it depends on what you mean? By now, people who join the sect live and cultivate there, but of course go night hunting and kite shooting in the wider area. I guess when you think about it there is a lot of nature compared to some places? Though βοΈβ°οΈ has plenty too. But it's not in a barren area or a busy city with only manicured grounds at least. And yes, I am very good at πΉ, though I can hunt without it too. I can catch fish and pheasants with my bare hands. In between the humility lectures. πβ! I can take it.
I started nothing! π₯Ί! But I'll conceded that you are maybe right. Or at least that you can like whatever πΌ you want to like. I basically said that already, but I'll say it again more specifically so you can have material to practice your humility lessons on. (Which I am also bringing small rocks to. I will make more room in my pockets! I'll have a pocket for questions and a pocket for rocks.)
Next important question: Calligraphy I can see, but who calls math an art??? Isn't math the opposite of art??? Or at the very least a completely different thing!
Aren't you afraid of things biting you when you catch them? Or pecking you. Or... whatever fish do. Do fish bite? They have teeth, right? They look sharp. The whole fish looks sharp. πͺπ
I'm sure I don't need to practice the humility lessons but thank you for your permission to like πΌ. Which I graciously extend to you in turn.
I don't know what you mean, they're just arts. Archery, calligraphy, ceremony, why not math? They're all things you aren't born able to do, that can be very pleasing to see done. There's no contradiction here.
The fish are not sharp for the most part, didn't you live on a boat? Did those fish have teeth? I'm shaking my head at you. Besides, you don't grab fish or pheasants by the sharp parts. Do you need very humble lessons in this?
Isn't art for... looking at things? Or listening to things? Stuff that people consider beautiful or elegant or makes them feel certain ways. Math sounds like a weird thing to get emotional about. And ceremonies, too??? Unless they're like performances? I guess archery could be a performance too, but that's a bit of a stretch.
I lived on a boat, but that doesn't mean I touched a bunch of π! I didn't do the fishing or the cooking, so the only thing the π touched was my mouth. π€π€€ (And yes, some of them had teeth! Lots of teeth! π¦π¦π¦ You can find some really scary things out in the ocean.)
Are you also giving humble lessons on those? βοΈ is going to show me how to cook things, but I don't know if that means π... Or π in general, even. I want to learn how to hunt! Pretty please? π₯Ί
This is ghosts all over again. I don't understand why being good at these things can't be an art. I promise if you do enough of any of them, you'll feel some way or other.
Scary things like sand cultivators who don't cook or fish? What did you do, then?
I can give humble lessons on hunting! If you throw in that last half a β. Cooking π too, so you won't just learn how to make vegetables that are bad for your cultivation.
I am taking notes, but they mostly read that you have emotions about weird things. But fine! If that's the case, then I'm also very good at arts! Math! How are you good at ceremony? What does that even mean? Are there certain ceremonies? Or just any?
What do you mean what did I do? In general? For food? We had a cook, you know. Everyone had designated responsibilities, so I didn't need to cook. I just had to make sure that I showed up for mealtimes.
The half a star is there so that you don't get complacent! I can't barter it away, or you won't have any reason to improve your essays. But teach me hunting anyway! And cooking π! I can find something else to throw in! What else is worth hunting and cooking lessons?
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Date: 2021-10-23 02:20 am (UTC)Oh no! A suffering π»!
Have you maybe looked at your clothes at all??? Even once? I guess I could see roguish or practical, but without the red bits, you look like you're about to send someone off to Kelemvor. β°οΈπβοΈ
What does βοΈ have to do with any of that? White is a perfectly good color, though a little bland. Very paladin-y, as we've discussed before! π‘οΈπβ¨
I'm not mad at anything! Except maybe the way that you're saying "people who do laundry"... Are you not one of those people??? Do you not do laundry??? π°
Of course πΌ mean things, that's why I asked! That's neat, though. I wasn't sure you liked noble things.
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Date: 2021-10-23 03:55 am (UTC)I do laundry and I respect myself and that means not having to excessively scrub chili oil or grass out of my clothes.
What does that mean? Why wouldn't I? I feel like I'm being made fun of. π₯Ί
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Date: 2021-10-23 04:51 am (UTC)And paladins are usually in... good??? colors??? Or at least good ones are. White is a given. Silver, too! Or gold! Or whatever their gods use. They have places, it's just not all *one* place. It's... wherever their god or goddess has a temple? Which could be anywhere? I don't know, it's weird that your places are color coordinated!
Is white really a death color where you're from? That's so weird... So does Lan Wangji look really creepy, then? I can't imagine it.
I am glad you're doing your laundry, you had me worried! No unclean π»s here! Just slightly chili-scented π»s...
If anyone is making fun of you, it's you from several months ago! When I asked you what you wanted to reincarnate as, you said you should pick something noble, but you didn't really care! Or something like that. So I didn't think you'd care about noble flowers, either.
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Date: 2021-10-23 03:17 pm (UTC)So paladins are just...monks that go out and do things? That makes sense, βοΈ's clan was founded by a monk. I bet paladins in gold are extremely obnoxious, I'm annoyed just hearing this.
Stop remembering things I've said, it's scary. Ideally you don't have to be anything less noble than a person, but I was just being realistic! And realistically do you think a π·οΈ feels less noble than a π¦? The π·οΈ is probably just as happy, and probably only we care if it is noble or not. So as I'm still a π», I obviously care about noble πΌ. But these are just word games, like with names.
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Date: 2021-10-23 07:31 pm (UTC)There's a lot of death gods because... there's a lot of people? I'm not sure about that one. I haven't studied religion, so I've just picked up things here and there. But I do know that sometimes gods are killed, and they have to be replaced! So not only are there a lot of them, but there's been a lot more over the centuries. (For instance, the previous god of death was killed in the city I'm from; and Kelemvor ascended to godhood along with Cyric and Mystra. That gets talked about A Lot.)
I don't know what it means if Kelemvor keeps you! I just know that usually people are shuffled to their respective deities after they die, but if they're Faithless or False, then Kelemvor keeps them with him. Faithless being if they don't have a deity and False if they didn't follow them right? I guess it's sort of like godly leftovers? They have to go somewhere. I don't think he makes dead souls work for him, though. He's supposed to be very neutral and fair, so it's probably a very normal and average afterlife? I don't think about it too much, since it probably doesn't concern me anyway.
Paladins in gold are probably obnoxious, agreed! I love gold, it's very flashy! But anyone who wears it a lot is only interested in getting people to look at them. (But in my defense people *should* look at me, I'm adorable~)
And I'll stop remembering things that you say when you stop saying things! Which will be never. I think a π¦ is better than a π·οΈ, but I don't know about more noble? I don't know that nobility matters??? But it can matter to you if you want, so you are allowed to care about noble πΌ.
(A noble π»???) Can I ask another small question of this most noble π»? Why are orchids considered noble?
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Date: 2021-10-24 07:57 pm (UTC)That does make sense. You can wear gold and make people look at you and it's fine, because you're adorable and not obnoxious, and you admit that's why you'd be doing it. Obviously if a paladin did it it would be very different because they'd never admit it.
Well what is better if not more noble? You can't say just liking π¦ over π·οΈ means one is better, or more noble. You can't just say a π» is noble either! But fine, I can explain, and not leave all the responsibility of educating the younger generations to βοΈ. Orchids are like the gentry of flowers because they're the height of beauty and refinement, fragrant without being intoxicating, grow in seclusion and harsh weather without a need for admiration, and are an ideal subject for painting studies and scholarly pursuits. I know you're going to say that's nonsense and πΌ are πΌ, but you would have to take it up with scholars! I'm just the messenger π».
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Date: 2021-10-24 09:03 pm (UTC)I guess you'd be doing something in the afterlife??? I'm not sure, like I said, I haven't looked it up and also it doesn't concern me! I'm not going to have an afterlife, I'm going to go straight on to being a π¦. I've already decided it, and I don't care what anyone else says. If Kelemvor or anyone wants me, they're going to have to catch me. Exclusions may apply, but only for SelΓ»ne because she's cool.
π¦ are only better than π·οΈ because if I'm a π¦ and you're a π·οΈ, then I'm worried I might eat you! That would be awful. Also people squish π·οΈ, and they just generally aren't well liked! I don't think nobility has anything to do with either. What even *is* nobility, really? I feel like I'm starting to forget what it's supposed to mean. Nobility. Nobility. Nobility.
Wow, I'm offended that you think I'd say πΌ are πΌ. I can appreciate that orchids are very pretty flowers and also difficult to grow right. I don't know about admiration (Do other flowers actually need admiration? Or do people just like to think they like to be admired? Sounds like that's putting a lot of pressure on the flowers?) but I'm sure people love to draw them and study them. They're bilaterally symmetrical, and a certain amount of symmetry is always visually pleasing. Not that radial symmetry isn't good too, but it's much more common in flowers, which makes orchids fairly unique.
So I will graciously accept this noble flower and place it delicately in my hair where it belongs~
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Date: 2021-10-26 02:42 am (UTC)Don't you think maybe the god of the normal neutral average afterlife for boring souls might be good at catching souls? Or maybe not if they're usually boring. Why's SelΓ»ne cool? Can you just dedicate yourself to her so you don't have to be a π¦ or are you just really heart set on the π¦ thing?
You're too hung up on the eating, some π·οΈ eat π¦ and you don't seem to be worried about this at all! I don't like that even from my current non π·οΈ non π¦ perspective. As for being squished, it's against the rules at βοΈβ°οΈ so I would just go there.
You're also too hung up on the nobility! It's just a shorthand, like πΌ. Though maybe they do care a lot about admiration, and that's how you get πΌπ».
So glad my πΌπ meets with Klaudia-laoshi's approval.
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Date: 2021-10-26 06:47 am (UTC)Maybe Kelemvor has so many boring, average souls to look after that I'll sneak right by and out the afterlife door~ π¦ life, here I come~
I'm not particularly heart set on being a π¦. It'd be nice to have a normal afterlife, I think? Not that I'm not enjoying this life, to be clear! I am having a great time doing whatever I want and being π, and I have no intention of not being π for a very long time. I just don't really know if tieflings have normal afterlives or not? Maybe it doesn't matter what I want or who I'm dedicated to. Maybe the gods don't want me. Maybe tieflings are already spoken for. I don't know. Maybe it's just being practical that I make some plans to run out the backdoor of whatever soul plane I end up on, just in case Kelemvor ships me off to some devils I've never heard of.
It's a lot of maybes, and I don't know that anyone has any good answers. So planning to be a π¦ is just easier, isn't it? But SelΓ»ne is already very cool for reasons I shouldn't have to explain, but I guess I will!!! Just so you can understand that it's not all bad, I promise.
SelΓ»ne is primarily the goddess of the moon, but also navigation, the stars, and anyone who finds themself lost or searching. She's supposed to be ever-changing as the moon--sometimes joyful and energetic, sometimes subdued and tranquil, sometimes sad and mournful, and sometimes fierce and cold. But above all, in all her iterations, she's supposed to be caring and forgiving. She's the one who made the world what it is, and she's fiercely protective of it. If you're lost at sea or on land (or even just need some kind of metaphorical guidance???), then she's there to help guide you to safety. Or if you need protection to make it through the night, then she's there for that too. She sees everything that happens under the light of the moon, and she controls fate itself... So if anyone can tell Kelemvor to take a hike, I'm sure it's her. Which is why being a π¦ fugitive is only a Plan B, just in case.
I have a lot of other cool stories about her, but this is already so much. A tired π» is going to fall asleep again by the time I'm done. π
I don't want to meet a π·οΈ that eats a π¦. All π·οΈ except those π·οΈ can live happy lives on βοΈβ°οΈ. I know we made a π«π·οΈ pact and everything, but I'll make a nice π·οΈ home to give to βοΈ so that a π»π·οΈ will have a place to stay, just in case. Do π·οΈ like a lot of rooms? Do they all have to be red? That might clash with βοΈ colors, so there might have to be some compromises made.
(Also, I'm not hung up on the nobility, you're hung up on the nobility. Nobility Nobility Nobility. What is it shorthand for? More nobility? The noble nobility of nobles that are nobly noble.)
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Date: 2021-10-28 08:51 pm (UTC)SelΓ»ne sounds really good though. Fate, and everything that happens under the light of the moon? She must be very busy, but it sounds like she can handle it. Does she get paladins? What colors do they wear? π»π«π΄
The π·οΈ rooms can be whatever color you think best, I wouldn't want to clash with all the βοΈ tranquility and all. I would be a good π·οΈ to live with except for the no killing, because I don't think π·οΈ can eat vegetables. Maybe there's a bug that eats books that I could be vigilant for.
Stop saying nobility! It's a shorthand for all those other things I said! This is how words work and I don't know why you're like this!
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Date: 2021-10-28 10:17 pm (UTC)Her colors are blue and silver, but the clergy I've seen usually wear white when they're in official dress. Maybe silver is too gaudy? Armor is silvery in color though, and that's probably fine for paladins. (No gold! They're not obnoxious~) They're probably not around anymore, but there used to be a whole order of them called the Guardians of Light. But that was over 1500 years ago. I don't know what they're called now, if anything. Since SelΓ»ne doesn't particularly favor fighting, I think it's more usual to see clerics and priests dedicated to her than paladins. Or druids, maybe?
Maybe the π·οΈ rooms can be red on the inside and blue on the outside~ Best of both worlds! Are animals not immune to the no killing rule? You would think that they'd let a π·οΈ be a π·οΈ and eat a bug or two...
And I am like this because it's funny. π€ So nobility is just... beauty and refinement and... nice smells? Seclusion? Not needing admiration? I think I got lost on which part was nobility and which part was just the flower. But if you put it like that, then can't anyone be nobility? Why can't a π» be noble?
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Date: 2021-10-29 09:33 pm (UTC)Maybe animals are immune, but maybe that's just because all the π·οΈ can't read. Maybe I should have tried that.
Well in theory I guess some of that is just nobility for flowers only. And in theory nobility for people is mostly for nobles, but obviously that's nonsense, there are some very ignoble nobles out there. But I'm not sure π» can be, didn't you just worry that I don't clean my clothes? And I need so much admiration, maybe being noble is too boring. For everyone else, you can just decide for yourself. Or ask Lan Zhan.
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Date: 2021-10-30 01:33 am (UTC)If there can be ignoble nobles, there should be noble... not-nobles? Ignobles? I don't think that can be a noun, but it should be. Anyway, if being noble is too boring, why care about noble πΌ? You were literally just complaining because I expressed surprise that you liked noble things! Make up your mind. Wait, no, hold on...
(βοΈ voice) Don't be of two minds. π
π€π€π€ I did worry that you didn't clean your clothes, but only because you said things and I remembered them. You're a very clean π». And a very admirable π»! I don't think that should knock you out of the nobility running. If wanting admiration excluded you from being nobility, I think there wouldn't be any nobles at all.
That being said! I don't actually know if you are or not... You said βοΈ was, right? And you like to talk about being equal! So... *are* you a noble π»? π» noble? I would like to know before I say any more silly things about nobles. You know, just in case. πππ (No offense faces!)
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Date: 2021-10-30 03:40 am (UTC)There are certainly people who are noble regardless of bloodline, and they are very admirable (but not seeking to be admired) and some who are noble both ways. But what does liking noble πΌ have to do with whether or not I'm noble myself? Aren't πΌ for everyone? Maybe not for you, don't π at me. Quoting rules is allowed though because it is very funny.
You can say as many silly things about nobles as you want, regardless. But before you accuse me of being dodgy again, I'll tell you that I'm not one, as in in direct line of succession of a cultivation sect, one of the great five or otherwise. Not like βοΈ. When I said equal, wasn't I talking about βοΈ specifically? So you can keep these πππ for later use.
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Date: 2021-10-30 05:44 am (UTC)I like πΌ, they're for me! They can be for everyone. No one has a monopoly on flowers, and if they do, we can both fight them. βοΈβοΈβοΈ
It's just... Hmm. I don't know how to put it. You know a lot of things! Like about noble flowers and scholars and your cultivation stuff, even if you say you're only a messenger. And it makes me wonder how you know them? What sort of π» learns the things that you've learned, etc. What did you do back on your plane? Did you have a job? Or some sort of pursuit of study? Other than being a ghost expert, of course!
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Date: 2021-10-30 06:07 pm (UTC)So you can like noble things without question, is that it? (βοΈ voice) Hm.
No, it was just ghost expertise for me π But not being an heir doesn't mean I couldn't be a cultivator or learn things, what are you asking me, Klaudia-laoshi? Believe it or not I'm a gentleman, learned in the six arts, brought up in a well regarded sect, went to βοΈβ°οΈ lectures, ranked fourth most eligible on the list of young masters for my generation π I can't believe you've seen through my humility.
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Date: 2021-10-30 07:46 pm (UTC)Don't βοΈ voice at me! If you can like noble things, I can like them even more because I'm not the one calling them noble. They are just things! Normal things!
Also, your humility is like a glass window that has just been cleaned. So clear! Not a speck of dirt to obscure my sight! There might not even be any glass at all! π
But you are a fancy gentleman! I thought so... That's the part that seemed kinda weird? I don't know what the six arts are, but those sound important. Are they arts, or Arts? And βοΈβ°οΈ lectures are obviously important, but those aren't for everyone? You can't just go to βοΈβ°οΈ and get lectures? It's a shame you were so very eligible and yet weren't eligible for humility lectures, sorry for your lot. π
What sort of well regarded sect were you brought up in? That's like βοΈ stuff, right? But like... ππΆοΈπ«β°οΈ? There is probably a better picture for that, but I don't know what it is.
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Date: 2021-10-30 10:14 pm (UTC)So when you like things you can only call them normal and not make any reference to what you like about them? This is interesting, tell me more.
Well if it's so clear why did you have to make sure? A π» can't win, it seems like. Either I'm properly humble and it seems weird, or maybe not being humble is also weird! Maybe you're just going to say I'm weird no matter what! And I don't know what you mean, they're the arts you learn to be respectable. And who is everyone? βοΈβ°οΈ lectures are for the older and higher ranked disciples of other cultivation sects. If you were just curious or looking for free meals, you wouldn't have a good time anyway. Only π might, even without cultivation, just as long as you timed the questions for just as they're being answered so you don't have to ask them. And if there is a need for humility lectures, I'll give them, because that's just how eligible I am.
Unfortunately there isn't a better picture, I've already tried. And I already said it's pretty different from βοΈ stuff specifically! Rather than being founded by a monk, it was founded by a ranger. Less rules and scholarly sleeves and music, more free spiritedness and directness and archery. Lakes and ponds and liveliness instead of being hidden away on a β°οΈ. Food that doesn't taste like poorly disguised medicine and that you could actually hunt for. But still βοΈ, π§. πββ
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Date: 2021-10-31 01:08 am (UTC)You *are* weird no matter what, I'm surprised it took you so long to figure out~ π€ The Arts are different from the arts! The Arts is what people sometimes call magic (cultivation?), but I guess you're talking about actual arts? Like painting and poetry and stuff?
I would have a great time on βοΈβ°οΈ, and I would have so many questions stuffed into my pockets by the time I got there that they would have to host a lecture just for me. But don't worry, I'll make sure to set aside time for you humility lectures, too~ (You will need someone to observe for correctness, right?)
Do you have a lot of rangers then? And rangerly-like things? Nature? πΉ and π! That makes sense, I think. Especially for you. π€ No wonder you're so knowledgeable about living in the woods. Does that mean you also know how to πΉ as well as βοΈ? You would have to πΉ in order to hunt, right?
(Are you asking me to grade your essay again? Is that πβ? Are you sure you can take it?)
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Date: 2021-11-01 02:45 am (UTC)See what I mean about you starting it? But yes, I mean actual arts and not magic or cultivation. Like calligraphy, and math.
The worst part is I believe you would. You would set an impossible standard for all the students after you, and they'd put your picture up probably on the rules wall, and you'd need my humility lectures very sorely (and have to throw so many things due to my correctness).
I suppose it depends on what you mean? By now, people who join the sect live and cultivate there, but of course go night hunting and kite shooting in the wider area. I guess when you think about it there is a lot of nature compared to some places? Though βοΈβ°οΈ has plenty too. But it's not in a barren area or a busy city with only manicured grounds at least. And yes, I am very good at πΉ, though I can hunt without it too. I can catch fish and pheasants with my bare hands. In between the humility lectures. πβ! I can take it.
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Date: 2021-11-04 04:43 pm (UTC)Next important question: Calligraphy I can see, but who calls math an art??? Isn't math the opposite of art??? Or at the very least a completely different thing!
Aren't you afraid of things biting you when you catch them? Or pecking you. Or... whatever fish do. Do fish bite? They have teeth, right? They look sharp. The whole fish looks sharp. πͺπ
ππ€... βββ
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Date: 2021-11-05 10:59 pm (UTC)I don't know what you mean, they're just arts. Archery, calligraphy, ceremony, why not math? They're all things you aren't born able to do, that can be very pleasing to see done. There's no contradiction here.
The fish are not sharp for the most part, didn't you live on a boat? Did those fish have teeth? I'm shaking my head at you. Besides, you don't grab fish or pheasants by the sharp parts. Do you need very humble lessons in this?
βββ / ββ (β οΈπβ‘οΈβοΈ)
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Date: 2021-11-06 03:54 am (UTC)I lived on a boat, but that doesn't mean I touched a bunch of π! I didn't do the fishing or the cooking, so the only thing the π touched was my mouth. π€π€€ (And yes, some of them had teeth! Lots of teeth! π¦π¦π¦ You can find some really scary things out in the ocean.)
Are you also giving humble lessons on those? βοΈ is going to show me how to cook things, but I don't know if that means π... Or π in general, even. I want to learn how to hunt! Pretty please? π₯Ί
βββ / βββΒ½
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Date: 2021-11-07 11:12 pm (UTC)Scary things like sand cultivators who don't cook or fish? What did you do, then?
I can give humble lessons on hunting! If you throw in that last half a β. Cooking π too, so you won't just learn how to make vegetables that are bad for your cultivation.
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Date: 2021-11-08 12:20 am (UTC)What do you mean what did I do? In general? For food? We had a cook, you know. Everyone had designated responsibilities, so I didn't need to cook. I just had to make sure that I showed up for mealtimes.
The half a star is there so that you don't get complacent! I can't barter it away, or you won't have any reason to improve your essays. But teach me hunting anyway! And cooking π! I can find something else to throw in! What else is worth hunting and cooking lessons?
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